27 NOVEMBER 2023
Germany and the US have refuted the article written by Bild journalist Julian Röpcke about an alleged “secret plan” which would push Ukraine to start negotiations with Russia in order to end the full-scale war.
Source: European Pravda
Details: The Federal Government of Germany in response to DW that the material of Bild had no ground, and Berlin would support Ukraine “for as long as needed for the protection from the Russian aggression”.
Quote: “It is clear for the Federal Government: Ukraine has to define military and political goals in its defencive fight against the Russian aggression. Only Ukraine can set a date of the start of peace talks.”
In his turn James O’Brien, Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs, said at the briefing on 27 November that Washington has no policy of “inciting” Kyiv to start talks with Moscow.
“We’ve always said that this is a matter for Ukraine to decide,” O’Brien told the Reuters agency.
Background: On 24 November the Bild tabloid reported with reference to an anonymous source that Germany and the US want to force Ukraine to resort to negotiations with Russia using limitations in armament supply as leverage.
According to the article, Berlin and Washington are considering an option of freezing the war, thus the collision line will become “a new quasi-border between Ukraine and Russia”.
In early November Volodymyr Zelenskyy, President of Ukraine, stated that nobody is pressuring him to start negotiations with Russia.
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https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/11/27/7430597/
So much for their anonymous sources. Sounds like a source from mafia land … st. petersburg or moscow, to be precise.
How about slapping a fat fine on this rag, for lying and spreading ruskie propaganda?
So, Trump didn’t do it this time? 😉 I was waiting for the part when Trump calls Merkel and they go rehabilitate Poopin hand in hand…lol
Did he call her? 😁
No way, I don’t think he likes the waddling tic. She’s part of the reason Trump was trying to shut down Nord Stream 2. You know, just trying to help out his bff Pootin…oh wait…I forgot he was a ruzzian agent…
Do all russian agents enjoy golden showers? 😂
This is of course welcome news. It follows the established pattern: a source reveals a plan to force Zel to sit down with a demonic nazi, followed by a gap, then eventually a refutation.
“We’ve always said that this is a matter for Ukraine to decide,” O’Brien told the Reuters agency.”
Yes they have always said that, but what’s the point? There never can be any negotiations with genocidal dictators.
Another pointless refrain from the “west” is : “all wars end in negotiations”, which is so untrue as to be laughable.
WW2 ended only with the total surrender of Germany and Japan, followed by occupation for many years, while the arseholes learned not to be murderous fascists.
The Korean War never ended and is probably the closest comparison with what has to happen with Ukraine :
The dirty murdering occupiers must be completely removed or killed, then there has to be a DMZ, permanent Budapest signatories bases and Ukraine must have her nuclear deterrent restored.
That won’t end the war of course, so Ukraine will need the most comprehensive air defence architecture ever constructed.
Meantime : give Ukraine the $350-500 billion in sequestered putinaZi cash, so they can win more quickly.
I agree. There simply cannot be any negotiations whatsoever with the fascist, criminal shithole. It’s totally futile anyway, since the stinking little rat never abides by anything he says or promises. His word is worth as much as a long, brown streak on an underwear.