Kateryna Schwartz21:46, 07/02/24
It is noted that “quick resolution of the Ukrainian conflict” plays a key role in Trump’s plans for NATO.
As part of Donald Trump’s plan for NATO, the Alliance undertakes to stop further expansion to the east – in particular, to Ukraine and Georgia, and will also hold negotiations with Putin on how much of Ukrainian territory Moscow can “keep” for itself.
Politico writes about this with reference to experts on national security related to the ex-president of the USA.
“A quick resolution of the Ukrainian conflict, which has lasted two and a half years, is also likely to play a key role in Trump’s plans for NATO,” the publication says.
It is also emphasized that if Trump wins the election, he can withdraw security guarantees for the Alliance countries that spend less than 2% of GDP on defense.
“To tell the truth, Trump is unlikely to fully withdraw from NATO… But even if he does not formally leave the organization, this does not mean that NATO will survive Trump’s second term unscathed,” writes Politico.
The US will maintain its nuclear umbrella over Europe during Trump’s second term, keeping its air power and bases in Germany, England and Turkey, as well as its navy, the sources said. However, the bulk of the infantry, armored vehicles, logistics, and artillery would eventually pass from American to European hands.
The shift envisioned by Trump’s plan for NATO would involve a “significant and substantial” reduction in America’s security role in Europe.
(C)UNIAN 2024
You are in NATO or outside NATO. There are no intermediate positions. The entire functioning of the organization relies on cooperation and pooling of resources. The fact that Trump says he does not want to withdraw is only a way of preventing NATO from functioning when the interests of the orange baboon or its terrorist agents are not aligned. If Trump goes to the White House, it will be necessary for Europe(rest of Nato) and Ukraine to do their own defense project. It’s inevitable.
Or cough up the 2% that the NATO rules calls for. Its very simple and it worked during Trump’s 1st term, the money poured in.
Not really, that mostly happened since 2022 for obvious reasons.
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Here is a chart for you, maybe that will help you comprehend the truth. You can see the trend was way before the date your imagination told you.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2024-02-12/only-35-of-nato-countries-meet-the-groups-defense-spending-target
This doesn’t seem right. These figures no longer correspond to reality.
Member expenses according to the minimum participation percentage (2%)
23/31 members: 2 to 4.1%
10/31 members: 2.3% to 4.1%
8/31 members: 1.3 to 2%
Apart from Italy and Slovenia, all these participations are increasing. We cannot say that structurally there is a deep problem with the participation of member states. This is improving.
The question remains about increasing this index by 2%. But it is difficult to convince members if the USA wants to withdraw partially from the organization and create an à la carte NATO. It does not make sense.
It is indeed the question of the functioning of NATO that Trump wants to call into question, by segmenting sectors of the Organization’s activities, arguing roughly that ultimately the nature of the conflict in Ukraine is a regional question of Europe not looking more at the USA. It’s quite funny that Trump’s team would propose to prevent the expansion of NATO in the European zone (Ukraine and Georgia) in which they no longer want to be involved (“Trump’s plan for NATO would involve a “significant and substantial” reduction in America’s security role in Europe.”).
It will be recalled that the USA is a signatory to the memorandum intended to ensure the security of Ukraine (not Europe).
It will be recalled that NATO, although shaky, has enabled its members to be protected for several decades, including Europe, which is the USA’s leading trading partner. US interests are better guarded with a strong and united NATO.
I don’t think the chart RSM is wrong, although it isn’t the best from a visual point of view.
It is just that RSM read it wrong, as he was doing it while having Trump’s dick in his mouth.
His own graph showed that only after 2022 most countries turned white or better.
^b$rt
Look at the chart again and see when most countries hit 2% or higher. That was after 2022.
There was a slight increase before 2022, but only after 2022 this accelerated.
Maybe first check your own sources before sending them to me.
^b?rt
I should know better than spend any of my time with someone completely unreasonable. I will leave you to your swill.
Straight from the kremkrapper playbook verbatim.
Trump scares me more then ever now.
Don’t be afraid of anonymous sources and the left wing press, they want you to be afraid so that you’ll vote for the guy who ushered in both of Poopin’s invasions of Ukraine. What sense does that make?
Sir Red, I honestly don’t know who is being fooled. I voted for that guy, twice and had been a listener of Fox, Newsmax and many other right oriented media. I have also looked at media that is decidedly left like CNN and the lame street media. I believe I’m fairly informed. Also I have friends who are on Trump’s campaign so I also hear it from individuals close to him. After all that I can confidently say without hesitation…TRUMP SCARES THE SHIT OUT OF ME!!! No TDS just facts.
Sir Red I hope you know I have the greatest respect for you and when others disrespect your opinion and thoughts I am the first to tell them to go to hell. You gave allot for this site and I am eternally grateful to you.
Thank you Sir Cap but there are many others that also put their heart and soul in here just like you do. I just pay the bills 😉 This site is also yours.
I understand. Funny, his unpredictability also scares the Moskali, lol. I remember when Trump’s former chief of staff said Putin was mocking Trump when he was advising putin NOT to invade Ukraine, he kept telling Trump “You won’t do anything, you won’t do anything.” Trump just kept telling him, “Don’t do it! You won’t like what I will do to you.”
Publicly he says Kim is a good guy and then bombs that Iranian general Soleimani out of the blue. He is certainly unpredictable.
Trump also shut down NS2 after mocking Germany for buying ruzzian gas but expecting the USA to protect Germany from ruzzia. I’m sure you remember that. Merkel was a disaster imo.
Trump didn’t shut down Nord Stream.Most of Nord Stream was finished under his tenure
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Don’t forget, NS2 never pumped a molecule and Biden took the Trump sanctions off of it.
Biden was opposed to it, calling it a “bad deal” for Europe. But he waived sanctions on Nord Stream 2 AG and its CEO, Matthias Warnig, in an attempt to rebuild ties with Germany, after relations deteriorated under trumpkov.
His State Department also *imposed* sanctions on four Russian ships, including the Akademik Cherskiy, which began pipe-laying for the project in Danish waters in April of 2021. It also imposed the measures on five other Russian entities, including the Russian Marine Rescue Service.
The project was already more than 95% complete despite the previous sanctions.
“NS2 never pumped a molecule”
Because it wasn’t completed. And after Russia began deploying troops to the Ukrainian border, President Biden and Chancellor Scholz worked together to stop it, and President Biden imposed the sanctions on Nord Stream 2 AG and its corporate officers.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/02/23/statement-by-president-biden-on-nord-stream-2/
(That was me.)
“Publicly he says Kim is a good guy and then bombs that Iranian general Soleimani”
What does one have to do with the other?
“out of the blue”
Not at all. It was part of a series of escalation, following trumpkov’s stupid withdrawal from the 2015 nuclear deal with Iran.
On 27 December 2019, the K-1 Air Base in Iraq, which hosts Iraqi and U.S. personnel, was attacked, killing an American contractor. The U.S. responded by launching airstrikes across Iraq and Syria, reportedly killing 25 Kata’ib Hezbollah militiamen. Days later, Shia militiamen and their supporters retaliated by attacking the U.S. embassy in the Green Zone. The 3 January 2020 strike that killed Soleimani was in response to that.
“Trump’s former chief of staff”
Is that the same Chief of Staff that trumpkov asked “if Finland were a part of Russia”?
According to trumpkov’s former National Security Advisor, “The fact is he barely knew where Ukraine was.”
Regardless of our differences, I will always respect your opinion.
Although his “unpredictability” is a good trait in New York real estate development, I don’t believe it’s a trait that should be used as a leader of the free world. Such unpredictability has and can cause wars. President Reagan was extremely effective in foreign policy. He was not unpredictable but rather focused on goals that were publicly known. His steady hand crushed the Soviet Union, without a war. Oh how I miss his communication skills and his ethical standards.
“the guy who ushered in both of Poopin’s invasions of Ukraine.”
That’s a nonsensical thing to write.
First of all, I see a lot of people here with “Biden Derangement Syndrome” talking about Biden and 2014 in an attempt to smear Biden based on what happened when Obama was President. When Biden was VP, his job was to do what the President instructed him to do – it’s not fair to blame him for things that happened when he wasn’t in charge.
And President Biden certainly didn’t “usher in” putler’s invasion in 2022 – he did everything he could to try and prevent it.
Sir Red – you wrote back in November, “if the election was today I would be voting for Biden.” Has that changed? Would you now really vote for the guy who hates Ukraine (blaming it for his first impeachment) and would happily give large chunks of it to Russia, over the guy who is actually supporting Ukraine?
Personally, I’d like to see the both of them just go quietly into the night. They’re both idiots in their own way. I only ask one question…Is this the best that the United States of America has to offer? Really? These guys represent the future of our country? Heaven help us all.
I still haven’t decided but reading this criticism makes the decision easier. You really think Biden had nothing to do with Putin’s invasion of Crimea? That’s laughable. Even then, he sure as hell did when Putin invaded again in 2022. You might remember when Obama was elected, he was widely criticized for having no foreign policy experience…..viola…Biden for VP. Yeah, the same Biden that advised against killing bin Laden. Kind of make you proud?
Sir Red I couldn’t provide a meaningful factual opinion. Yes my gut says that Biden’s disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal caused allot of the problem. But that said, what could make you think that if Trump had a second term, Ukraine would not be screwed by Trump. His hatred of Ukraine is known. So I ask you, what is better? A demented President who has provided assistance to Ukraine or a President who hates Ukraine. And yes Trump hates Ukraine.
Ok, here is your chance, show me something Trump has DONE to show he hates Ukraine. Not words, deeds. 😉
What would you consider Feb. 28, 2019, when trumpkov illegally failed to release military aid for Ukraine, as he had promised to do? Then, 5 months later, he says he’ll release it, but asks Ukraine for a “favor” – he wants them to announce an investigation into Joe Biden in order to hurt Biden’s chances in the election.
Do you think that he held up the aid (resulting in Ukrainian deaths) because he hates Ukraine? Or do you think it was just his typical venality – not wanting to help anyone unless it benefits him personally.
Since you seem to question the facts I post, here’s a timeline to help your fact-checking:
Feb. 15, 2019: Congress passes Federal budget, including military aid for Ukraine.
Feb. 15, 2019: trumpkov vows to release aid to Ukraine in Feb. 28.
Feb. 28, 2019: trumpkov does *not* release military aid. No explanation given.
Jan. 1 – July 25, 2019: 65 Ukrainian soldiers are killed fending off the Russian invasian.
July 25, 2019: In return for releasing aid, trumpkov asks Ukraine for a “favor”: publicly investigate Joe Biden for “corruption”
Aug. 2019: Russians kill 7 more Ukrainian soldiers.
Sep. 9, 2019: I.G. notifies Congress about the existence of whistleblower report.
Sep. 10, 2019: Adam Schiff writes to the acting DNI requesting the report.
Sep. 11, 2019: trumpkov releases aid to Ukraine.
…and if you question that trumpkov failing to release the funds was illegal:
The nonpartisan congressional watchdog, the Government Accountability Office, conducted a review which found that the Trump administration broke the law when it withheld US security aid to Ukraine last year that had been appropriated by Congress.
The GAO said that the White House budget office violated the Impoundment Control Act, a 1974 law that limits the White House from withholding funds that Congress has appropriated.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/16/politics/gao-report-administration-violated-law-withholding-aid/index.html
“You really think Biden had nothing to do with Putin’s invasion of Crimea?”
You really think he did? Can you point to any credible evidence that suggests that? I’ve seen nothing suggesting that putler’s invasion of Crimea had anything to do with any action by Biden.
“he sure as hell did when Putin invaded again in 2022.”
I’ve posted about this number of times; you never respond. May I remind you that Trump had weakened NATO and vowed to pull the U.S. out of it if he won a second term. Biden and his secretary of state, Antony Blinken, had worked hard to pull the alliance back together.
Biden worked the phones and Blinken flew around the world, talking to allies not only to warn them but also to get pledges to pressure Russia, help Ukraine defend itself, and accept refugees if necessary. On one day alone, Biden spoke with leaders from the U.K., France, Germany, Italy, Canada, Poland, and Romania; the secretary general of NATO; and the presidents of the European Union.
Biden and Blinken anticipated Putin’s pretenses for an invasion of Ukraine and publicized them, taking away from the Russian president a key propaganda lever. Along with their allies, they warned they would respond to any invasion of Ukraine with heavy economic sanctions that would crush the Russian economy. This was a threat many observers met with skepticism, since sanctions imposed after Russia’s 2014 invasion and subsequent occupation of Ukraine had not been strong enough to force Putin to a reckoning.
You’re right, I don’t usually respond to nonsense. You certainly carry water for Biden very well but you are blind to objectivity and reason.
Everything I write is factual and easily verifiable. I believe that you don’t respond because you can’t refute any of it. What, specifically, do you think is “nonsense”?
“You certainly carry water for Biden very well”
I’ve written here a number of times that Biden was far from my first choice for President. But I believe in fairness. (Unlike some here who are afflicted with BDS.)
“you are blind to objectivity and reason.”
LOL. Try presenting some.
You wrote something seemingly nonsensical. I asked you for any credible evidence that supports what you wrote. As expected, you failed to provide any.
Consider that there are millions of people who believe that President Biden in no way pushed Putin to invade Ukraine. Even if you really (mistakenly) believe that I’m “blind to objectivity and reason”, try presenting any evidence that would convince an objective person of your claim.
I’ll wait…
“I’ll wait…”
Still waiting, but I really didn’t expect you to be able to come up with any credible evidence to back up your seemingly nonsensical claim that Vice President Biden had anything to do with Putin’s invasion of Crimea.