The conscription dilemma

Dec 10, 2024

President Zelenskyy opposes lowering Ukraine’s draft age from 25 to 18 to address the manpower crisis, as some US officials on Biden’s team suggested to him.

“We must not compensate the lack of equipment and training with the youth of soldiers. The priority should be providing missiles and lowering Russia’s military potential, not Ukraine’s draft age,” Zelenskyy wrote.

He highlighted these points during recent Paris meetings with Donald Trump and Emmanuel Macron, where the focus was on finding ways to end the war.

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Comment from :

Julius Bona

Yes!
I totally support Zelensky stand of wisdom!…
Lower the Russian lethal capacities, not the age of soldiers for faith and humanity sake!….

If the legal age is 18, that can be the start of national responsibility to fight but must be given full mental assessment, training, and battle education!…
For what is truly proper is at 20 years old and above as the starting age of maturity to be able to decide rightfully in the heat of battle!…

God be with you Mr President!
God be with the Ukraine nation and people!….

James Jasaki

I RESPECT HIM, AND I SUPPORT UKRAINE’S WAR AGAINST WAR CRIMINALS IN MOSCOW, BUT I THINK HIS BIGGEST EXISTENTIAL MISTAKE WILL COME BACK TO HAUNT HIM. YOU CAN’T FIGHT A WAR OF SURVIVAL AND ALLOW THE STRONGEST AND HEALTHIEST OF YOUR POPULACE NOT TAKE PART IN THAT WAR. IT HAS NEVER BEEN DONE IN HISTORY FOR A GOOD REASON, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOUR BURN RATE IS HIGHER AND YOUR ENEMY HAS AN ENDLESS SUPPLY OF MEN. I REGRET TO SAY THIS, BUT THIS MADNESS WHAT HE’S DOING.

Papaw Jeff

The Russians are drafting everyone from 18-60. If Ukraine wants to win this War then Ukrainian men are going to have to Stand up and Fight. 😞💔

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BORIS: PUTIN IS MORE OF HITLER THAN STALIN

“It’s a total nightmare,” he added in a podcast with the Telegraph.

He also made it clear that Putin indicates all his desires in the 2021 essay on Ukraine where he defies the country’s right to exist.

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Why Zelensky’s refusal to conscript more men has torpedoed his relationship with Washington

Ukrainian president warns the Biden administration that ‘the priority should be providing missiles and lowering Russia’s military potential

Joe Biden speaks alongside Volodymyr Zelensky
Joe Biden speaks alongside Volodymyr Zelensky. There have been plenty of rows between the two leaders Credit: LUDOVIC MARIN/AFP
Joe Barnes

10 December 2024

Volodymyr Zelensky may have just called last orders on his relationship with Joe Biden in one of the most open assaults on the outgoing president to date.

There have been plenty of rows between the two leaders during almost three years of conflict, but the argument that began to unfold last week may be the one to end them all.

In recent weeks, US officials have been quietly urging their Ukrainian counterparts to conscript men as young as 18 to be sent to the front line in the war against Russia’s full-scale invasion.

Washington is arguing that manpower shortages are reaching a critical stage, with Russia making steady gains in eastern Ukraine and the possibility that Donald Trump could withdraw military support for Kyiv when he takes office in January.

‘There have to be people on the front lines’

Those warnings became public when Antony Blinken, the secretary of state, arrived in Brussels for a meeting with Nato foreign ministers.

“Even with the money, even with the munitions, there have to be people on the front lines to deal with the Russian aggression,” he told reporters.

“But, for example, getting younger people into the fight, we think, many of us think, is necessary. Right now, 18- to 25-year-olds are not in the fight,” he later added in an interview with Reuters.

Under current rules, men are conscripted into the Ukrainian army aged 25.

Mark Rutte, the secretary-general of US-led Nato, also joined in, saying: “We have to make sure, obviously, also that enough people are available within Ukraine.

“We need, probably, more people to move to the front line.”

‘Putin only fears Trump’

When a spokesman for Mr Blinken’s State Department said the US would be willing to arm and train new brigades, it proved too much for Mr Zelensky.

The Ukrainian president felt compelled to respond in public, delivering a parting blow aimed directly at Mr Biden, who is still the world’s most powerful leader for 42 more days.

“I told president Trump that Putin fears only him and, perhaps, China,” Mr Zelensky wrote on social media.

Donald Trump shakes hands with Volodymyr Zelensky in Notre-Dame Cathedral on Saturday
Donald Trump shakes hands with Volodymyr Zelensky in Notre-Dame Cathedral on Saturday Credit: LUDOVIC MARIN/AFP

He also warned the Biden administration that “the priority should be providing missiles and lowering Russia’s military potential, not Ukraine’s draft age”.

His comments came shortly before Mr Biden approved a $20 billion loan to the country.

The loan will “provide immediate support to Ukraine and will be serviced and repaid by future flows of extraordinary revenues stemming from Russian sovereign assets immobilised in the European Union,” a press release said.

The war-time leader has not lashed out like this in public since he lost his cool with Hungary’s Viktor Orban while virtually addressing a meeting of the EU’s European Council early on in the conflict.

Appearing to address the Hungarian president’s meeting with Putin, the Ukrainian leader stressed the importance of unity within Europe.

His allies around the table quietly urged Mr Zelensky to show more restraint in order to not alienate potential allies.

It took what is perceived as a threat to Ukraine’s existence to provoke another outburst.

Mobilising men is out of the question

For Kyiv, mobilising men between 18 and 24 is completely out of the question.

The age group makes up less than 10 per cent of Ukraine’s population, with around two million men making up that pool.

In comparison, 25-54-year-olds constitute approximately 44 per cent of the 36.7 million population.

Mr Zelensky lays flowers at a memorial on the Day of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Kyiv on Friday
Mr Zelensky lays flowers at a memorial on the Day of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Kyiv on Friday Credit: UKRAINIAN PRESIDENTIAL PRESS SERVICE HANDOUT/EPA-EFE/Shutterstock

Mr Zelensky had already lowered the age of conscription from 27 to 25 earlier this year in what was one of his most controversial policy decisions of the war.

The move was made in the hope of recruiting some 200,000 troops to help plug the ever-growing gaps in Kyiv’s battle-stricken armed forces.

However, there are arguments that some Western experts believe can be made to justify recruiting even a small number of troops from the lower age group.

Ryan Evans, founder of the War on the Rocks website and podcast, recently suggested that even just 30,000 new troops could make a difference to Ukraine’s cause.

“Politics of this in Ukraine might be complicated but the necessity for more fighting men isn’t complicated. Effective infantry requires more young men, not more middle aged men,” he said.

He concluded: “Mobilising 30,000 more men or so from a pool of one million Ukrainian adults below the age of 25 would not risk the nation entirely. This is utter nonsense.”

3 comments

  1. This is a moral dilemma: there is no right or wrong answer to it. Either way, it’s terrible.
    But putler’s foreign policy is determined exclusively by violence and horror. There is no other solution than firstly defending powerfully against such violence and secondly using military power to expel the horde of rapist/torturer filth.
    Let us remember that Ukrainian mothers allowed their sons; sometimes their only sons, to fight for their land. Many have paid the ultimate penalty. Should those mothers whose sons avoided conscription have the right to enjoy their sons when the mothers of volunteers lost theirs?

  2. It’s already chiseled in stone that the Biden administration never has shined with ingenuity, but has instead been a world champion in stupidity. This conscription topic is just one more bad idea and underlines their nitwit mentality. They really think that Ukraine can afford to send under quipped young guys to their deaths to make up for the administration’s complete shortcomings in three years of war?
    Let’s not forget all those weapons systems that were at first vehemently denied to Ukraine and then handed over in too small numbers. Thirty-one Abrams from maybe 3000 in storage alone. Also, Biden’s team allowed mafia land to bomb Ukrainian frontlines and cities day and night, having refused to allow Ukraine to use US weapons on mafia territory. There are other bad examples that hampered Ukraine’s ability to defend itself. Now those assholes think that sending 18-year-olds into the meat grinder will help?
    That’s downright morbid.

    • Blinken:

      “Right now, 18- to 25-year-olds are not in the fight…”

      Well they actually are there; in big numbers. Because they volunteered. Another fatuous error from Blinken. You’d have thought his conscience would drive him to do a lot more for Ukraine, as his father was an official witness at the signing of the Budapest shitshow.

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