Aug 4
Many in the West still have an illusion that there many “good russians” who want peace and good relationship with the West. Here is one typical representative of this brainwashed nation: “We need an emperor. Democracy leads to chaos. We will build an empire and win.“
P.S. This is a russian woman who has lived oversees for a long time and then she returned to russia because she cannot live in democracy, she needs an empire.
I fear that his loathsome, bloodthirsty skank is only too typical of the putinaZi imperialist mindset.
For that reason, only two options are available:
Ukrainian victory or putler victory. The latter is so terrible to be simply unimaginable.
No negotiations are possible with such creatures.
Of course it would be nice if something positive came out of the Jeddah conference, but the so-called “fence-sitters” are nothing but putinaZi enablers who prefer to present as impartial to cover their own skanky arses.
I refer to the BRICS members, plus Indonesia, Egypt etc.
Unfortunately this is just typical of the MF living in that soulless country. Complete destruction is the only viable alternative. These people are delusional.
I wrote a LOT here, but I want very much for Ukrainians to understand American politics, since we’re very serious as a country about supporting them, especially in fighting an evil monster like putin. I’m an American right-wing conservative, and though I disagree with left-wing liberals, I still mutually agree that putin must be stopped. Preferably killed. I think many American left-wing liberals mean well, but I believe they are misguided, and I know that they believe the same about my politics.
This seems affected by something I heard mentioned on my favorite conservative politics commentary show. The support against putin invading Ukraine enjoyed broad bipartisan strength from many among both Republicans and democrats. Along with many political independents, and many citizens of various foreign countries across the world. My russian-born neighbor who has now moved, seemed to hate putin, though he doesn’t speak much English, he made the sentiment clear when I’d brought up the invasion. He spat at the ground, saying putin’s name, and then ground his foot at where he’d spit. I don’t sympathize at all for any russian going BACK to russia, even if Americans are fighting violently with each other on politics, that’s no reason for a russian immigrant to go BACK to a place he should know is even worse than whatever argument he left in America. Such a russian look for a place that has more compatible politics. But I suppose if a russian is going to “prefer russia,” over any options in America, Americans are better off without him. There are others who are similarly stupid, I’ve heard of people who managed to actually escape north korea, but then later went BACK to that shit-hole, quite possibly the one place that seems actually WORSE than russia.
The point I was making in the beginning of this comment though, is that I believe liberalism in America–which from what I’ve checked about this, seems different than liberalism in Ukraine–it seems that left-wing politics, or liberalism here (especially far-left) has backfired when they tried pushing support for Ukraine. In the invasion’s beginning, just about everyone was angry with putin. Some feared this would drastically increase gas and/or food prices. Others feared putin would later try invading other countries in Eastern Europe. He also seems intent on restoring the soviet union, but under his own “vision” of a russian “empire.” Many conservatives and liberals alike, hate this, and don’t want putin to gain more power or turn russia into even more of a dictatorship. But then, some more extreme liberals felt that support for Ukraine wasn’t “enough.” Such liberals made demands that someone who commented about how they were angry with putin, weren’t showing the Ukrainian flag, that a patriotic American “MUST” show his patriotism by bearing it for Ukraine. That’s what Ukrainians should do, because they are Ukrainian, that’s their country, but it’s not the homeland of an American. If he’s mutually supportive, then his support shouldn’t be “demanded of,” then this would actually push his support away from Ukraine, and into apathy.
I support Ukraine and hate putin. If I wasn’t hoping to marry a beautiful Ukrainian lady, then this probably wouldn’t be personal for me, but I’d still support Ukraine because their country was invaded by a dictator who has no right to be there. I don’t have any serious arguments against a liberal who isn’t being extreme about their politics, or is trying to hold to a centrist position. Nor do I want to argue, until I feel my politics are getting attacked.
Ben Shapiro said something about two things that he believes are driving American politics, and I’m trying to quote him as closely as I can from his audio show, “In the beginning of the war in Ukraine, HEAVY bipartisan support for Ukraine. HEAVY. I mean look at the polling data. Republicans, democrats, independents, everybody supported the idea that Ukraine should be able to fend off a russian invasion. And THEN, the minute that the left transmuted that [war in Ukraine] into a values conflict about upholding ‘liberal democracy with pride/progress flags,’ an ENORMOUS number of people on the right went, ‘oh, NOW we see what you are doing.’ They said the minute, the MINUTE, that a conflict that was NOT actually a cultural-values-conflict, was transmuted into a ‘cultural-values-conflict’ in which the SAME liberal elites who hate your [American right-wing, patriotic independents] church, suddenly ‘love’ Ukraine, a bunch of people went, ‘No, not interested.’ It’s that reactionary–and understandable–reactionary politics that’s driving everything right now.”
The other thing he commented about, was how the average blue-collar American feels that the “elites” (political powers in government, super-rich erudite like mark zuckerberg) are pushing a “superior, holier-than-thou” attitude. As if they know what is “good” for you, better than you do, so you must “bend yourselves to their will,” to be given a condescending “gift” for your “improvement.”
You claim to be a Ukraine supporter and then you quote Ben Shapiro, a hateful bastard whose position on Ukraine mirrors the positions of Tucker Carlson and Trump?
Makes no sense whatsoever.
Hey, don’t shoot the messenger, I’m just trying to describe the factors affecting American politics, which may later affect American national support for Ukraine. A lot of people are tired of the “support the trending thing!” problem. Like average people being swamped with demands for changing their social profile picture thumbnails to a token of that trend. I can support Ukraine by voting for a politician who promises to continue helping supply weapons and other material aid. But does mean I “MUST” change my profile pic to the Ukrainian flag? As I said, I’m not interested in arguing, but if it feels more convenient to leave the argument by refusing to support anything of the “left-wing” politics, both online and offline, then I feel the liberals drive me away from agreeing with them at all.
It’s important for allies to understand each other’s political positions, because these opinions affect decisions later on. I recognize that I shouldn’t try to demand a left-wing person accept my position just because I say so. But likewise, I shouldn’t have to face the same problem from a left-wing demand to accept their views, either.
You are entitled to your opinions; same as anyone else.
I’m just pointing out your inconsistency. You often quote Shapiro and obviously are a fan.
I’m simply asking why you, as a claimed Ukraine supporter, would want to be a fan of such scum?
I’m a conservative btw. As my comment history shows.
Ben Shapiro shouldn’t be taken seriously by anyone about anything.
Though there are some good Russians – the volunteers fighting for Ukraine is the best proof – the majority enjoy being low-down slaves. They need a suppressive master as much as we need freedom.