October 19, 2025
Cars drive past a “Donetsk Oblast” sign at the border between Dnipropetrovsk Oblast and Donetsk Oblast on March 16, 2024. (Arsen Dzodzaiev/Global Images Ukraine via Getty Images)
Russian President Vladimir Putin demanded that Ukraine hand over full control of Donetsk Oblast to Russia as a condition for ending the war during a phone call with U.S. President Donald Trump this week, The Washington Post reported on Oct. 18, citing two senior U.S. officials.
According to the report, Putin indicated he was willing to give up parts of the Zaporizhzhia and Kherson regions, both partially occupied by Russian forces, in exchange for complete control over Donetsk.
Some White House officials described the proposal as “progress,” while a senior European diplomat cautioned that Ukraine would likely view the proposal in a very different light.
“It’s like selling them their own leg in exchange for nothing,” the diplomat said.
Trump has not publicly addressed the Kremlin’s demand but, following his meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at the White House, urged both sides to “stop the killing and make a deal.”
This development marks a shift from Putin’s earlier position in April, when he rejected a U.S. proposal to freeze hostilities along current front lines and instead insisted that any peace deal must grant Russia full control over Crimea plus the full four regions that are partially occupied now: Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia, and Kherson.
Putin and Trump are expected to continue discussions at a planned summit in Hungary, which is set to take place in the coming weeks.
Hungarian Foreign Minister Peter Szijjarto said on Oct. 17 that he had spoken with Rubio and his Russian counterpart Sergey Lavrov, adding that preparations for the U.S.—Russia summit are ongoing.
We are right back to Captain Cornflake’s surrender document/cascade of shit with this.
Cue Krasnov briefing his team of putinoid scum to start making public statements browbeating Zel to give the child murderer what he wants.
How long before filthy putler-rimmer Gabbardova starts sharing intel about Ukrainian positions with her controllers?
She won’t even have to go far : Sergio Gor; actual name Sergey Gorokhovsky, works in the WH; aka kremlin west.
“It’s like selling them their own leg in exchange for nothing,” the diplomat said.”
Correct.
But no fucker on Krasnov’s team of putler-rimmers thinks like that.
Putler will never gets what he wants. There is no way Ukraine will surrender territory that is heavily fortified and would give the subhumans direct access to attack Kyiv. Of course the used car salesman thinks all you need to do is shake hands and all is well, and everyone sails into the sunset.
This is a ghastly situation. Krasnov is back on full putler-rimming mode (if he ever left it). The implications are profound and terrible :
Europe won’t commit troops or air power, therefore the putler holocaust could well be ongoing when the next presidential election comes round. The victor is uncertain; it could be another cunt like Krasnov.
putler will be happy with 3 more years of bullshit and stalling; he will have time to swamp the occupied territories with orcs. There are 2 million soon becoming available to him; too many for the defenders to kill in sufficient numbers without a massive increase in firepower.