“Peace” is often followed by genocide from the winner

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Sept 16, 2024

There is a thing that many Westerners do not understand about Russian-Ukrainian war. Some think that if your country loses, you, as a person, may just continue living peacefully under a different flag and pay taxes to a different government. That’s not the case.

Very often the “peace” is followed by genocide from the winner. There are lots of examples. I like Marori-Mariori case as a very good example of silly pacifism. If you do not know, here is a recap: a ship full of Maori warriors landed on the Island populated by the peaceful people of Mariori who lived without war for centuries. Instead of fighting, Mariori suggested to share the resources. Result? Maori hunted Mariori like animals, most were killed, some were even eaten, and some were enslaved. The holy places of Mariori were turned into toilets, and they were forced to speak the Maori language.  It happened in 1835–1860s.

If you think that this cannot happen in Europe nowadays, let me remind you what happened to Ukraine after it lost the war to Russia in 1919 and became the part of USSR. But the “peace” did not bring any good to us. In 1933, in the Holodomor genocide about 10 million Ukrainians died from hunger because their food was taken away. In 1937, most Ukrainian scientists, artists, writers, and poets were executed (to say later that we are the nation of peasants with no culture). The Ukrainian language was pushed down all the time, and many Ukrainians were put to prison for “nationalism” even in 1980ties.

Now, in occupied areas of Ukraine, you may get serious problems even if you speak Ukrainian. In Bucha, they were executing the teachers of history and Ukrainian literature, they had the lists with them.

So, sometimes war may be safer than “peace”, because fewer people get killed. Also, dying in a fight makes more sense than being taken to the slaughter like a cattle in the middle of the night (that’s what happened to my great-grandfather in 1938). That’s why Ukraine is fighting, we have memory. And when some politicians propose “negotiations” without Russian troops leaving Ukraine, they either do not understand or simply do not care about the millions of lives they put in danger by this “peace”. It’s not just about the land, it’s about millions of people living under occupation.

Russia must lose the war. You cannot reward them with any part of Ukraine, because it will only motivate them to move further in several years.

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Comment from :

Matej Markič

Ambassador and Envoy to the EU at the World Roma Federation | Co-Founder and Vice-President at the United for Kosova and Bosna i Hercegovina | Master’s Degree in History

Russia’s tactics is “peace for piece (of a foreign territory)”, then rearming its military, and repeating the same pattern again. Besides Ukrainians, it has happened to Georgians, Armenians, Moldovans, Finns, Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians, Chechens, Circassians, Tatars, and many other nations who have been unfortunate enough to have russians as its neighbors. Besides that, I am truly sorry for your great-grandfather, dear Volodymyr Kukharenko.

Mike Paraska

Computational Designer| AEC Software Development | Digital Transformation | Musician

I have tried in vain and wasted a lot of time explaining this to those westerners who believe that peace with Putin is possible. They are often conspiracy theory types, or anti “American Imperialism”. Their disdain for “mainstream media” leaves them vulnerable to gaslighting by Russist propagandists and apologists, who then win points for calling me “brainwashed by the corporate news”. It’s sad, because in other contexts they may even be the type to stand up for the oppressed and go protest against what the Israeli’s are doing in Gaza for example. But because they think America is taking Ukraine’s side, they see it as another unwinable expensive war like the ones in the middle east.


Pablo Góngora

KAM ESENCIAS MOLES SA19

Thanks Volodomyr for sharing. Cannot agree more. In the case of ruzzia because they have always acted like that. The whole world heard Putin’s words a couple of days prior to the attack to Ukraine mocking those who were saying that the attack was imminent. He insisted ruzzia would not do that. And then the war began. There is no possibility of agreeing a peace treaty with a state accustomed to lying, poisoning, killing (even their own), torturing, kidnapping, murdering, raping and forgetting the fact that Ukraine is not and has never being ruzzia in terms of culture, politics, and above all, ethics. Slava Ukraine!

Craig Pichach

Vice President, Operations at Andora Energy Corporation

Stagnant statism is a curse; it’s a pyramid scam that has condemned Chinese, Venezuelans, Russians, Vietnamese, many peoples have been condemned to suffer under declining productivity and the elimination of the middle class. That being said it’s a pyramid scam that works as multi level marketing can sell the short term benefits – your going to be “taken care of”, “education and health care are FREE, no cost to anyone anywhere”, your “special versus others and DESERVE a little extra cut without doing something hard and labourous for someone else”. Some people will vote for that. It’s sad, it’s sick, it happens. My recommendation is get Ukraine in NATO. And I mean those who want to be in Ukraine. Those people want freedom, the deserve freedom, they are dying for freedom. All the other stuff, EU, “semi autonomous oblasts”, scams. Not a scam – a functional democracy with free markets and having a U.S. SSBN willing to nuke anyone anywhere for your freedom is worth the price of admission

Allen Woods

Excellent post. the last paragraph, for me, being particularly poignant.

But that raises another aspect of the insanity of this whole thing. Even if the Russians “win” it will be a pyrhhic victory as they will find themselves involved in an ongoing COIN operation that will last for decades (as I believe is happenning in Crimea right now) and will be deadly, certainly for people who take on senior positions in government…

AND.. The Russians have managed to extend their borders, which must be defended, by several hundred miles. Madness.

Just recently, the BBC has broadcast a short series of documentaries on Zelensky in the form of a collection of interviews interspersed with news reports for context. What a remarkable man. what a reprsentative for his country. If folk can watch the series, please do.

One comment

  1. Just to echo the words of commenter Allen Woods: the BBC documentary series on Zel is indeed a must-see.
    It really proves the remarkable judgement of the Ukrainian people to choose this amazing man as their president.

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