08/20/2024
Source: @JakeBroe
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It doesn’t look good for the free world when an innocent country is fighting off a horde of savages and, concurrently, is defending the free world, yet must depend on donations to help to do all of this. Not good at all…
We are too chicken to even give permission for weapons use, where such permission should be a matter of course.
Especially after signing Budapest.
The Krembots often forget that Ukraine had the 3rd largest nuclear weapon stockpile in the world…before Budapest. History now teaches us what happens when you give up your nukes. You either become victim of a coup or invaded by fascists. Sad because now nobody will ever give up the weapons everyone agrees we SHOULD give up. Thanks putler…
I’ve said it many times before. The Budapest Memorandum sounded the death knell of any further nuclear disarmament in this world.
A popular troll argument is that Ukraine was never able to use those nukes due to not having codes, etc. Utter bullshit.
“A popular troll argument is that Ukraine was never able to use those nukes due to not having codes, etc. Utter bullshit.”
I don’t know why you call that a “troll argument”; everything I’ve read says that’s the case. Can you point to anything that says differently?
“When the Soviet Union broke up in 1991, there were thousands of former Soviet nuclear warheads, as well as hundreds of intercontinental ballistic missiles and bombers, left on Ukraine’s territory, which it decided to transfer to Russia. Ukraine never had an independent nuclear weapons arsenal, or control over these weapons, but agreed to remove former Soviet weapons stationed on its territory.”
https://www.icanw.org/did_ukraine_give_up_nuclear_weapons?locale=en
Ukrainians were a part of Soviet Union, and thus they were a part of its nuclear program. Ukrainian scientists and engineers were as much involved in developing and building nukes, missiles, and every other aspect of the nuclear infrastructure as ruskie ones. No one can make me believe that the Ukrainians would not have been able to make those nukes useable. No one!
So, if I understand you correctly, you don’t disagree with anything I posted above. Your argument is that clever Ukrainian hackers could have cracked the codes in order to gain control of the nukes.
In other words, the statement that “Ukraine never had an independent nuclear weapons arsenal, or control over these weapons” is true (and not a “troll argument”).
Your statement “Ukraine was never able to use those nukes due to not having codes, etc.” refers to an alternate timeline in which Ukraine didn’t give up the nukes, but instead successfully hacked the ability to control them. (So, perhaps your “was” would be more accurately phrased as “would”…)
Of course, I disagree with your claim. I don’t believe the farce that Ukraine never had control of those nukes, but even if they hadn’t, they could’ve made them workable for them easy enough. Seeing the close and vitally important relationship between scientists and engineers of the various soviet republics, it’s downright ludicrous to think that only the ruskies had total control.