Feb 07, 2024
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Donald Trump’s 2024 presidential campaign faces a new threat after New York lawmakers filed a complaint in the New York Supreme Court Tuesday night in an attempt to kick the former president off of the state’s primary election ballot.
Trump, the GOP frontrunner in the upcoming general election, has already been kicked off the ballot in Colorado and Maine. The Colorado Supreme Court was the first to rule that Trump was ineligible to run for office under the 14th Amendment in December 2023. Maine’s Democratic Secretary of State Shenna Bellows followed suit later that month, citing the 14th Amendment as well. Trump’s campaign called the Colorado court’s ruling “completely flawed” and Bellows’ decision a “hostile assault on American democracy.”
The 14th Amendment states that anyone found to be involved in an insurrection cannot hold federal office again. Colorado and Maine determined that Trump’s actions surrounding the Capitol riot on January 6, 2021, amounted to engaging in insurrection.
On that fateful day, a mob of Trump supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol building in Washington, D.C., to stop the certification of Joe Biden‘s election win, following claims from the then-president that the election was stolen from him via widespread voter fraud, despite there being no evidence of election fraud. Meanwhile, Trump has denied taking part in an insurrection.
In Tuesday’s filing from New York State Senator Brad Hoylman-Sigal, New York City Council member Shekar Krishnan, and another petitioner named Gertrude Fitelson, the 14th Amendment and Trump’s role in the Capitol riot was also cited as the reason that he should be barred from the ballot.
The filing comes the same day that the New York Board of Election determined that Trump would be on the Republican primary ballot in April.
“Donald J. Trump engaged in that insurrection through his personal actions before and on January 6, 2021, including without limitation summoning a crowd to come to Washington D.C. on January 6th and telling the crowd, which he knew was armed, to march to the Capitol and ‘fight like hell’ under ‘very different rules,'” the complainant stated.
The petitioners also cited Colorado’s decision to bar the former president from its ballot, writing in the filing, “Pursuant to Article IV of the U.S. Constitution, the courts of the State of New York must give full faith and credit to the judicial proceedings of the State of Colorado. Therefore, this Board is required to adopt the judgment of the Colorado Supreme Court that Donald J. Trump is ineligible to serve as President of the United States.”
“Allowing Trump to remain on the ballot would flagrantly disregard the plain text of the constitution and the historic record surrounding the 14th amendment,” Holyman-Sigal told Newsweek via telephone on Wednesday. “In our constitutional system, no person is above the law, not even would-be tyrants like Trump.”
“Giving him a free pass from the consequences of his insurrection will only embolden his efforts to overturn elections. Others who may seek the same through insurrection will be heartened. It will encourage political violence and potentially usher in a dictatorship.”
Krishnan told Newsweek via email on Wednesday: “Donald Trump is plainly disqualified from holding public office under the 14th Amendment. Allowing him to remain on the ballot would undermine the rules of our democracy, and would be an insult to voters. Even worse it would encourage the type of extremist violence that we saw on January 6, 2021.”
Newsweek reached out to Trump’s campaign and the petitioners’ lawyers via email for comment.
In a joint statement with council member Krishnan on Tuesday, Hoylman-Sigal said, “The Board of Elections can still uphold the United States Constitution by sustaining our objection and disqualifying Donald Trump from the presidential ballot…Should the Board of Elections fail to do their duty and rule Trump ineligible, I will see them in court.”
“The decision by New York State’s Board of Elections to allow Donald Trump to appear on the Republican primary ballot is a misreading of the U.S. Constitution…The Constitution he [Trump] swore to uphold renders him ineligible for public office,” Krishnan said in the statement.
Trump appealed the Colorado Supreme Court’s ruling on his ballot eligibility to the U.S. Supreme Court, which will hear arguments on the former president’s ballot eligibility on Thursday.
When asked about Thursday’s hearing, Hoylman-Sigal told Newsweek, “I hope they hue to their status as originalists and look at the plain language and history of the text. It would be the height of hypocrisy if suddenly conservative justices show a contextual approach toward interpreting the constitution.”
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-campaign-faces-new-ballot-threat-1867874
If New York manages to get this orange fascist off the ballots, it’s definitely game over for Trump. Biden is already enjoying a lead in the polls.
In your opinion facts, has Ukraine Aid been killed off?
Is there a workaround that is possible, or is it all over?
Remember that Oliver Stone series of interviews with putler? They were played endlessly to magaputler shitheads. I wonder if the Carlson-putler shitshow will do the same for putler, or will decent Republicans and Americans in general finally recoil from the horror and realise the death and misery that Trump’s Aid block has and is causing?
Don’t lose faith. There’s still allot of pressure on the legislators. Or at least I’m still hopeful
The aid has thus far been killed off, Scradge. Is there hope? Good question.
I hoped all along that the maga gang would put our security above politics, but this is obviously a pipe dream. There are the voters who could and should play a role in getting their representatives to stop their undemocratic behavior. It seems that not much is happening in this regard. I don’t count on any of those maga shit nuggets to find their honor and courage again and do the right thing. They are useful bimbos for an old, orange-colored fool. I place my hopes on other things, on a miracle for a Nikki win, for a Biden win, for the Supreme Court to do the right thing. For New York to kick him off the ballots, and for other states to follow suit. And, I wish he would just drop dead.
Interestingly, a former absolute fanatical trumpoid; Ann Coulter, made the same suggestion. Newsweek:
“Coulter spoke with similar hostility about Trump’s political future in a Saturday evening post to X, the platform previously known as Twitter. Responding to another user asking “in her opinion” what Trump “needs to do” to “help us take America back,” she did not mince words.
“Maybe he could die?” Coulter asked.
Newsweek reached out to Trump’s office via email on Sunday afternoon for comment.”
Indeed, death is a great help if the right people die, like putler and his gang.
It will be decided by the Supreme Court. I was wondering, even if the individual states disqualify him , I wonder if it matters. I think the Supreme Court at best will leave the decision to the individual states. Seems the only states that are disqualifying him are deep blue states which he’s not going to get in the electoral college anyway. I think the best bet is a criminal conviction for the top secret docs and the insurrection trial.
The charges are entirely bogus.
Folks, does it make any sense to you to allow such utterly nonsensical comments here? That fake news crap should be posted at Infowars, not at UkraineToday, imho.
I have watched and stayed silent while all of this shite, and that is exactly what it is, SHITE, about the US election. who’s bad, who’s good, criminal this criminal that for long enough.
I have seen it cause a rift in friendships and friction between others and it is time it stopped.
I came here all those years ago to discuss my experiences of and in Ukraine, to read what you had all done, where you had been, stayed, and eaten.
When the ‘real war’ began, we were discussing that without resorting to Political discussion as such.
There is a good reason why we Freemasons do not allow the discussion of Politics or Religion and you are now all seeing why.
There is nothing wrong with having an opinion, sometimes it is better to keep that opinion to oneself.
Good points, Mason. I guess that’s what the great builder in heaven would like to see, too. As a liberal Catholic, that world view isn’t that far from my own.
Politics is the core feature of this entire epic, Mr. Mason. I thought that you would know this. We’re not here discussing Ukrainian cuisine, girls, culture, or travel destinations, although they have been mentioned here and there before.
This site was borne out of our beginnings on CNN over 10 years ago, where we fought against the lies and misinformation that masses of russian trolls constantly posted. It had been about Ukraine virtually all across the board, but mainly it was politics. It is still mainly politics today. Thus, I don’t understand you in this regard. In your opinion, how can we do anything on here without politics being involved? Furthermore, US politics happens to be a vital component. Does your opinion differ about this?
Essentially, what is good for Ukraine is praised and what’s bad for Ukraine is denounced. As far as I’ve seen, Trump is bad for Ukraine. His useful idiots in Congress are also bad for Ukraine. Not only that; their behavior is bad for the United States. It’s bad for our security and even for our democracy.
Mason, if you think otherwise, then you’re perfectly free to post your own opinions. And, if you want to know why I think this way, ask me, although I have done so on here already on numerous occasions. But, please, don’t ridicule me for my political comments.
As for friends; there will often be friction between people when you discuss things long enough. I think that nobody is here merely to please everyone else. We are here to support Ukraine.
As for RedSquareMaidan, I never asked him to stop his support for the maga gang or Trump. I was never aggressive towards him, I never ridiculed him, denounced him, or ranted at him. On numerous occasions, I kindly asked him to give me something that would convince me to stop criticizing Trump and his friends. He never did. I wanted to know why he is supporting a group of people who are willing to let Ukraine be destroyed and for a shithole like mafia land to win. To this day, I have nothing. So, you can think whatever you want about this. I’m not perfect nor do I know everything, but I’m not at fault for him leaving.
please, don’t ridicule me for my political comments.
I wouldn’t dream of it. I think of all you Guys as very dear Colleagues and although we haven’t met, friends.
It was RSM’s decision to leave, a bit knee jerk I thought, but perhaps he will be back given time to reflect.
And of course you’re correct, you can’t remove Politics from any aspect of life, it just seems to me that the infighting is getting out of hand.
I’m not blaming or finger pointing, because I just ignore it, think to myself ‘Fuck me, you Blokes are supposed to be friends!’ Then I read another article and I can’t even remember who it was arguing.
Every one of us might think about letting something get out of hand as has done lately, the moskali shills must be watching, they love to feed on discontent.
I agree; the roaches are happy for any discontent that exists in the West and in the camps of Ukraine supporters.
Actually, I never saw our disagreements as fighting. I trounce on the small group of Republicans (I hate to call them Republicans) and their hero, Trump for what I see as good reasons. I wish it were different, but it isn’t. And, all I wanted from Red was a motive for his stance and why I should stop my aggression towards the maga people. Their behavior is costing Ukrainian lives, not only soldiers’ but women and children, too.
Of course, I hope that Red will return, like Mike has done. I must admit that I’m displeased that this has happened.
“Essentially, what is good for Ukraine is praised and what’s bad for Ukraine is denounced. As far as I’ve seen, Trump is bad for Ukraine. His useful idiots in Congress are also bad for Ukraine. Not only that; their behavior is bad for the United States. It’s bad for our security and even for our democracy.”
Exactly right facts.
“As for RedSquareMaidan, I never asked him to stop his support for the maga gang or Trump. I was never aggressive towards him, I never ridiculed him, denounced him, or ranted at him. On numerous occasions, I kindly asked him to give me something that would convince me to stop criticizing Trump and his friends. He never did.”
Also exactly right. He is a fanatical trump fan boy. Which is his absolute right in a democracy. What is not right is the hatred and foul ad hom attacks that he landed on me and others, simply for quoting the actual things that Trumpkov has said.
At the moment, Ukraine’s most implacable enemy outside Russia; namely Trumpkov, is winning the war, not putler. I strongly suggest that the orange fascist takes up Coulter’s recommendation.
Which fake news do you mean, Mr. Gray? Ohengineer’s?
Cap, the mere thought that a couple of states want to bar Trump from their ballots could affect the elections. Trump voters are like any others; they are not a homogenous group of people that all strongly support him. Some will vote for him regardless of any crimes or perversions he’s committed, some are leaning strongly towards him but would drop him for certain good reasons, and some are for him, but just barely so, ready to drop him for the slightest of reasons.
Maybe I’m overly optimistic with this, but maybe not.
Biden needs to drop out. The latest on his memory is way too much. But that said the dems are as fuckin nuts as the republicans who want Trump. They don’t understand that if you put a legitimate moderate as a candidate you’ll blow the hell out of Trump maybe even making him drop out.
I agree, Sir Cap. Both parties seem to have lost it. In various articles, it’s said that both candidates are unpopular. In fact, the people are forced to choose the lesser of two evils.
“it’s definitely game over for Trump”
How so? Trump wasn’t going to win New York in any event, so keeping him off the ballot in NY wouldn’t make any difference to the election results.
Yup, indeed. That lawsuit is only a waste of efforts.
This is true, darkbrandon. But, as I’ve stated above for CapWillie, the mere thought that some states want to bar Trump from their ballots can affect the elections. I can’t prove it, of course, but I’m certain that from the millions of Trump supporters, a certain number of them could be affected if some states have or want to bar Trump from the ballots. The more states that join in, the bigger the effect. So, it doesn’t have to be any red states banning the fool to affect the voters.
Biden is well behind in the polls. Still, at this point polls are worthless. They won’t start converging to reality until October.
The last polls that I looked at the other day indicate that it’s quite a close race. I hope that the orange baboon will be in prison by October. Or have dropped dead by then.
Maybe the Republicans can nominate Vladimir Putin himself as their Presidential candidate.
He might not be an American citizen, but he has a lot of experience and Republicans don’t care too much about laws anyway.
Seems like a good fit!
^bert
Ha, right, far right, Bert, that would be the honest way to do! 😆
Makes sense – cut out the middle-man. 🙂
It wouldn’t surprise me if they did. They’ve already shown what an anti-democratic gang they really are.
This new challenge won’t vhange anything, since Trump will never win in New York state anyway. On the other hand, he’s got a chance in Colorado, a purple state that has only grown more pro-Dem in the last decade. And Maine’s one of the few states that allocates its electional college delegates proportionally. So, being not on the ballot does make a difference there, even if overall not a big one.
Anyway, the upcoming Supreme court decision will leave an impression on more states. If the judges decide that Trump is constitutionally forbidden to run, because of his role in the Jan. 6th riot, then he reasonably can’t be on the ballot for the general election anywhere. That would create a whole new ballgame, putting Haley in an excellent position to get the nomination. Only a surprise candidacy by another Trump family member could stop her then, me thinks.
Halley is a fool. She will never be POTUS.
She is not a fool, I think she is very intelligent and an excellent debater.
Even though I do not share her conservative views, I can see she is a gifted politician.
^bert
Why do you say she’s a fool? Does she deny that the insurrection was an insurrection? Does she claim that the charges are bogus?
(Either of those would definitely mark has as a fool…)
Mr. Oh, the only fool that I see in this entire presidential race is the orange baboon. Luckily, the other fools – Ram-ass-whammy and DeSantis – have dropped out.
Mr. Gray, the mere thought that a couple of states have or want to bar Trump from their ballots could affect the elections. Trump voters are like any others; they are not a homogenous group of people that all strongly support him. Some will vote for him regardless of any crimes or perversions he’s committed, some are leaning strongly towards him but would drop him for certain good reasons, and some are for him, but just barely so, ready to drop him for the slightest of reasons.
Maybe I’m overly optimistic with this, but maybe not.
Perhaps the No Label party will be successful in registering in all the states and provides a realistic ally great and may I add young candidate who will capture the electorate that doesn’t Want Trump or Biden, which according to latest poll represents 70% of the electorate. Would be a great wake up call to both parties.
Yes, I think a serious wake-up call would be good for not only the two parties, but for the nation itself.