The Rest Is Politics: Leading
Description
Rory Stewart and Alastair Campbell, hosts of Britain’s biggest podcast (The Rest Is Politics), have joined forces once again for their new interview podcast, ‘Leading’. Whether they’re sports stars, thought-leaders, presidents or internationally-recognised religious figures, Alastair and Rory lift the lid on the motivation, philosophy and secrets behind their career.
@LeadingTRIP
April 10, 2026
At a time when the United States is threatening to withdraw from NATO, how can Europe maximise its power to deter Russia’s threat? If Vladimir Putin were given the territory Donald Trump offered in his peace plan, what would his next move be? Why does the White House keep misunderstanding Putin’s real war aims?
For those short of time, here are a couple of brief clips from the extended interview:
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The idea behind this podcast is to have two people with diametrically opposed political views questioning the guest.
Rory Stewart is a Conservative and Alistair Campbell is a Labour man who used to be Tony Blair’s spin doctor.
They both do a good job, but on this one it’s Campbell alone.
Zel’s warmth and humanity shines through like a beacon.
God bless and protect Zel and the Ukrainian people.
Alistair Campbell said at the end that “my dream is that Ukraine, Canada and the U.K. will join the EU.”
I agree.